Social and Political Philosophy
PHIL 370
Social vs Political Philosophy
- Justification for governmental authority
- Obligation to obey the law?
- Justification for punishment
- Capital punishment?
- Deterrence?
- Individual vs Collective
- Individual/Social differences
“normative”, "should"s, ideals. can’t be studied in isolation from their context.
overlap.
Is there an obligation to obey the law? §
Political Obligation and Consent —Harry Beran §
- consent theory is more plausible than people realize
- precise and limited scope
Aim: find a sense of “political obligation” and “consent” such that it can be claimed that consent is (at least) a necessary condition of political obligation
correlatives political authority and political obligation
The Consent Theory
- Political authority
- Right to make demands
- Obligation to meet those demands
- conclusive reasons vs a (not necessarily conclusive) reason
- To be under political obligation: there being a (not necessarily conclusive) for obeying the state
- under political obligation, but be morally justified in disobeying
- To be under political obligation: there being a (not necessarily conclusive) for obeying the state
rebellion vs civil disobedience
- rebellion: denial that one is under political obligation
- civil disobedience: acknowledging political obligation, but choosing to disobey for morally justified reasons. disobedience of a law because it is morally objectionable.
- assertion that the moral reasons for disobedience override the political obligation
political obligation and political authority are correlatives. political authority is a (not necessarily conclusive) reason for obedience.
“Political obligation”: a reason logically related to both political {obligation,authority}
The Consent Theory:
- obeying state because it stands in authority versus obeying it for other reasons.
- consent is a necessary condition for there being an auth relationship between a state and its members
- sufficient condition?
- does not claim
- consent is necessary|sufficient for there being conclusive reasons to obey the state[1]
Consent: acceptance of membership into a state[2]
Naturalized citizens: explicit agreement to obey rules
Native-born citizens: implicitly agree when transitioning from political minors to adults (full citizens)
consent == agreement == promise (or analogous to promise)
questions of utility and of fidelity are distinct.
Benn & Peters: if consent necessary, what auth does the govt have over people who disagree with the basic principles of the constitution?
consent: acceptance of membership in the state.
“agree with” vs “agree to obey”
why would one not agree with, but agree to obey?
- they’d rather continue to be members of the state
- (vs not be members at all)
disagree & wish to disobey options:
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secession
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migration
common objection (Hume): not an option for many. continuing to stay under state-ruled territory for lack of choice doesn’t indicate implicit consent. implied consent only if it’s entirely up to their “choice”
- lack_of_choice/freedom not a defeating condition for a promissory obligation
- defeating conditions for implicit and explicit promises are the same
- peasant’s predicament not “coercion” (not threatened by state), but their own “poverty and ignorance”
- being unable to leave is not a condition where a promise does not create an obligation
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declaration of not accepting membership in the state whose territory they occupy
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Why should I obey the law?
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Sanctions unpleasant
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Law often concurs with morality
- assault, murder, rape
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Other reasons are significant from a SPP POV
Is the fact that it’s against the law a reason by itself to avoid it
Not gonna get in trouble, not morally dubious. Still have a reason to avoid it?
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“Government” serves important functions, caveats aside.
Secure under a system of laws, as compared to in a “state of nature”. Else, vulnerable.
System of laws: secure. Thus, obey the law?
- at least the same level of safety|benefit regardless of whether you obey the law. maybe even greater.
‘Consent of (all) the Governed’: agreed, consented => obligation (even if wouldn’t otherwise be morally required)
Consent: clearly gives rise to obligation. answers both questions at once.
“implicit” consent is tricky
Agreement binding on you, if you agreed.
“Nobody agreed”, but is there something that has the force of an agreement?
Tacit consent vs Hypothetical consent
Equilibrium where it makes sense for everyone to consent.
No improvement for one party hurts other parties
Dependence on the state, benefited from the state. Alternatives?
Tacit | Hypothetical |
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Plato | Hobbes |
Locke | Rawles |
Tacit consent relies on an awareness of the options/alternatives. Do any of us?
Is the state obliged to educate political minors in order to derive authority? —Adrian
- Who put them in charge? Why do they get to make the laws?
- Why do they get to punish?
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Is it possible to define the conditions for tacit consent? Yeah
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convention. shared understanding.
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ability to withhold consent
In order to be able to say “yes”, you gotta be able to say “no”
State: security. can it be refused? nope.
“if you benefit from it, are you obliged regardless of whether you consented?”
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voluntary
Is leaving the territory a sufficient way of saying no? If you stay, are you consenting? Is that enough to satisfy the voluntariness condition?
no ability to avoid all govt, but ability to avoid that govt? is that enough?
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Are those conditions satisfied?
what counts as giving consent? accepting the benefits the state makes possible.
voluntary, or nah?
- voluntary services - libraries, schools
- public goods - security, protection
The Peasant
is inaction consent?
no resources, ain’t on him?
if it were entirely his fault (not in this case imo)
condoning|consenting
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difficulty threshold?
where is it consent by default? where does something become unreasonably hard?
when does coercion become implicit
The Principle of Fairness —Robert Nozick §
fairness argument:
[sacrifices: benefits: you benefit: you are obliged, morally, to do your part]
whether or not they consented
benefit > burden
- people obligated
- state justified in enforcing the obligation
Nozick: “only I can make the decision as to whether I’m obliged to one thing or another”
The Principle of Fairness —George Klosko §
When a number of persons conduct any joint enterprise according to rules and thus restrict their liberty, those who have submitted to these restrictions when required have a right to a similar submission from those who have benefited from their submission.
sacrifices of cooperators benefit non-cooperators as well (who don’t make those sacrifices). “unfair”. mutuality of restrictions
“the just distribution of benefits and burdens” —Lyons
“We are not to gain from the cooperative labors of others without doing our fair share” —Rawls
Fairness. Wrong for certain people to be exempt from burdens others must bear (in the absence of morally relevant differences bw them).
similar individuals: similar treatment.
- Exclude from benefits
- Free other members from the burdens
- bears similar burdens
1 and 2 must not be open to impose obligations to coop on
obliged if:
- they must unavoidably benefit from the coop while not coop’ing
- the benefits of not coop’ing can’t be extended to those coop’ing
kinds of goods:
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excludable
non cooperators can easily be excluded
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non-excludable (aka public goods)
providers cannot exclude individuals from benefits. to all, or to none.
defense, law, order, protection, …
depend on coop of several people
definitely provided to if provided at all. cannot refuse 'em.
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avoidable
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non-avoidable
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presumptively beneficial
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not presumptively beneficial
cooperation is necessary for entitlement to excludable goods arising out of mutual cooperation.
is free to decide if they want to make the sacrifices, since they can be excluded. they incur obligations only if they choose not to be excluded. “voluntary associations”. application principle of fairness wrt excludable goods is straight-forward.
benefits of non-excludable goods are non-optional and non-excludable. individuals can’t decide whether or not to receive them. blurry, complex.
limiting argument: since benefits will be provided regardless of what does, they shouldn’t be obligated to participate in the labors.
since non-coop’ers receive benefits regardless, it’s in their interest to be free riders
prisoner’s dilemma. people must cooperate to receive a benefit.
- if people coop, not cooping is in 's best interest
- if people don’t cooping, by cooping A will bear “useless burdens”
solution (?): “mutual coercion”. not Just to coerce unless they have obligations to cooperate.
limiting argument sez: “principle of fairness does not create obligations for non-agreers to contribute to non-excludable schemes.”
Klosko about Nozick’s examples: “concern the provision of goods of […] little value […] probably rhetorical […] substitute examples of schemes providing more significant benefits, the force of Nozick’s arguments will be blunted”
principle of fairness generates powerful obligations to contribute to non-excludable schemes if:
- worth the recipients’ effort in providing them
- presumptively beneficial
- have benefits and burdens fairly distributed
presumptively beneficial goods: “goods every person is presumed to want”. vague, difficult notion.
presumptive public goods (PPG): public analogies of Rawls’ primary goods. all members of a community want these, regardless of their detailed rational plans.
if a benefit is indispensable to 's welfare e.g. physical security, we can assume that they benefit from it even though they didn’t seek it. importance of such goods. indispensable. obligated regardless of their consent
- physical security
- national defense
- law & order
- satisfaction of basic body needs
- protection from hostility
- (possibly more, but not too many)
high level of benefit presumptive pub goods provide is necessary for generating obligations.
pickerel would give hypothetical consent, but his obligation arises because he receives the benefits. justification for not coop’ing? why are you special? none. indefensible, unless some morally significant difference between himself and coop’ers. free rider!
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pursue? nobody can (nonexcludable, unavoidable), but everybody needs and benefits.
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wouldn’t do any harm? unfair behaviour
special treatment without the justification? why? unfair
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“general, not universal compliance necessary” and wishes to exploit this?
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if everyone realized this, no presumptive pub goods. but forget that.
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obligation from receipt, they must be provided. if they are provided, his contribution not necessary!
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Pickerel: “their contributions were necessary when they made them. mine is not!”
provision of PPGs is not a one-time event, buddy. long-term coop’ive patterns. when? it’s continuous! it’s not a kickstarter lol.
ongoing cooperation. this distinction no longer valid.
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excludenon-excludable, unavoidableextend benefits of noncoop’ing to coop’ers[3] essential. must be provided. indispensable. can’t be done away with.- non coop’ers incur an obligation to coop
with non-PPGs (aka discretionary goods), the usual presumption of liberty is not overridden by the “non-strong” obligation. even if the benefit > burden_of_coop
Nozick’s examples turn on treating the weak obligations generated by the provision of discretionary goods as if they were much stronger
benefits of Gold’s noncoop (in discretionary scheme) can be extended to other members of the scheme. thus no obligation.
overriding of presumption of liberty
Are obligations to help provide PPGs enforcible??
does free riding justify punishment? can we be coerced into following rules that make PPGs available?
harm principle of justice. does free riding harm people?[4] if so, that might justify punishment?
not clearly, unless enough people free ride. “just taking advantage! not hurting ya 📈”
we all need it. harmed by someone who hinders the state from providing that. if no enforcement, enough people would disobey[5] (since people’d rather disobey some laws sometimes).
pollution example. each polluter contributes to pollution. accumulation. klosko: this is analogous. no single person undermines it enough to compromise, but if enough people did it, the cumulative harm would be large.
does this satisfy the harm principle? klosko: yes!
people that do tend to do their share be like: why do my share if the others don’t and i don’t end up receiving the benefit anyway?
[paraphrased] the provision of a single PPG triggers extensive obligations requirements to assist in many … in general (presumptive or nah) should not affect the degree of their obligation
What if someone doesn’t want security at all? What if someone wants the things that Klosko believes are absolutely unreasonable and undesirable? People making judgments about what’s in their own interest…
If the degree of benefits under the same obligations differ?
Proportional obligation?
Political Anarchism —John Simmons §
natural rights. sovereignty over ourselves. Simmons’ starting point. self. autonomous, free creatures.
Locke: we have a right to punish those who violate others’ right.
everyone’s rights impose duties on others. the only default obligation.
the only way we can obtain other obligations of any sort are if we choose to incur them voluntarily. voluntarism.
Simmons doesn’t buy the consent theory.
Philosophical anarchism: there is no obligation to obey the law
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All illegit[6], but not all are equally bad
illegit, but bring significant good anyway
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Denies that we’re all morally in a position to do whatever we please
there may exist good reasons (i.e. morality) to obey some laws even though there’s no obligation to obey them.
(explicit) consent precondition for political obligation
people in existing societies […] have moral duties that will overlap considerably with their nonbinding legal duties
we are not […] ought to act just whenever we have a right to do so
moral reason, even if no moral duty, to practice patience, courtesy, consideration, etc. Lockean Theory of Rights.
Each person also has the right to punish others who act immorally
hmm.
types of restrictive laws (oversimplified):
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prohibit acts that wrongly harm others
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systems of coordination on morally permissible acts to prevent accidents
e.g. traffic rules
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prohibit harmless private conduct
deemed wrong|unnatural for reasons apart from “natural” morality
e.g. incest? e.g. victim-less laws
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require|prohibit acts to protect the govt/state
e.g. prohibit treason, require military service
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require payments to permit provision of public benefits etc
e.g. taxes
categories 1 and 2 are easily justifiable. state officers exercising their legit right to punish moral wrongdoing.
interfering with harmless private activities? not justified.
good govts not entitled to enforce people’s support or force them to protect its territorial boundaries
can’t demand or seize payment either. never auth’d to be the sole enforcers of morality
existing governments routinely wrong their “citizens”
dealing with a moderately good illegitimate govt. “not at war” with such governments
weigh the importance of the rights it violates against the consequences of our various possible strategies
contractual duty vs natural moral duty
can’t usually disrupt the workings of an illegit govt unless it does significant harm. moral reasons to support (or not actively interfere). pointless to just replace it with a worse alt.
morally permissible to disobey laws that are illegit’ly enforced against us. individual disobedience doesn’t usually have dramatic social consequences. including taxeshmmst—) conspicuous disobedience too, perhaps
press for change via legal means. lobbying. steps towards making the membership choice voluntary. right to self-govt restored.
Lockean philosophy […] is only philosophically, not practically, anarchic
Locke: life in a free, consensual polity is morally preferable to even a stable, structured society built on force and acquiescence.
foolish to pretend that actual societies are likely to change in [these] ways
“view our conduct in a new light”, “more sensitive to the […] moral issues in our lives”
The limits of liberty §
The Harm Principle —J. S. Mill §
per Mill some cultures aren’t up to the kind of liberty he defends. umm… okay Mill.
a legitimate govt may legit’ly place constraints on people’s liberty. not all constraints on liberty are equally legit.
the only legit reason for preventing one’s liberty is to prevent them from harming other people. governs reasons for legit prevention of liberty.
paternalism[7]. another form of paternalism is to interfere when it’s a matter of private conduct.
state may not interfere with liberty to:
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protect a person[8] from harm arising out of their own actions.
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force them to do sth that’ll improve their life.
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prevent “unseemly”, “unfitting”, “indecenct”, … actions. perfectionist justifications
the kind of life you live should be up to you.
mill: they can make decisions for themselves!
indirect, or not, the chain of harm should hold true. then, harm principle holds!
likelihood of harm to others. harm principle doesn’t comment on where this line should be, but rules out some (most) kinds of justifications for restriction of liberty.
mill thinks speech, opinions are protected by the harm principle.
censorship. mill: noooooo
- exploitation, minimum wage paternalism is tricky. perfectionist grounds for minimum wage?
- drinking until 21. paternalistic (but also harm-unto-others kinda?).
- decency laws: public nudity|urination|sex. perfectionist. non-controversial.
- seatbelt, helmet: paternalistic. protect from accidents.
- anti-sui. paternalistic. conscious will.
- euthanasia. paternalistic (and controversial)
sui, drunkenness seem self-regarding, but may not be. dependents, debts…
how many purely self-regarding activities are there anyway??
should the state have a role in protecting people from their own “foolishness”? why accept the harm principle? how does mill defend the harm principle? any better reasons?
is the harm principle compatible with capital punishment (deterrent)? coz mill did support capital punishment. how does that play with the harm principle?
- other justifications for capital punishment (incl. retributive).
harm principles focused on reasons. an action may be defensible if done for one reason but indefensible if done for another.
not just state interference, but also societal interference in the form of social pressure.
mill: cancel culture bad.
present laws are very divergent from the harm principle
- “reasonably” direct
- “reasonably” plausible
mill: absolutist about speech.
mill: punish on grounds of the effect, not necessarily the cause.
mill’s exceptions to the harm principle:
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paternalism okay if the person in question is a child. protected against their own actions as well as against external injury
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“lEss dEveLoPeD civilizations” aren’t worthy of liberty -
opinions lose immunity when their expression is a positive instigation to some “mischievous act”
e.g. mob, corn dealer
reasonable to restrict it not because of the content, but because of the context
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choices made with lack of data
e.g. person-bridge-nowarn example
“irrational enough”. messy.
mill: can’t be “we disagree”. sufficient, indirect evidence that they’re not operating without enough information.
if they’re in the possession of rational faculties, they should be allowed to make decisions for themselves.
in the corn dealer example, the mob is not in possession of rational faculties. tract sold via amazon: mill, uncomfortably: “um… okay.”
utilitarianism: tries to achieve best results for everyone overall regardless of who tf they are. maximize good consequences.
mill is a utilitarian. mill: harm principle is supported by the utility principle. is it though?
self destructive person.
- paternalist: interfere.
- harm principle: don’t interfere.
- utilitarian: interfere (?)
more utility by paternalistic intervention. justify, mill, that this won’t be true in general. mill’s defense:
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social dimension
as a society we do better when people make their own judgments and mistakes. diversity of (opinions & modes of life) good.
we all benefit from others’ liberty.
starts with freedom of opinion, progresses into freedom of action.
mill: reasons for freedom of opinion also call for freedom of action. to act upon one’s opinion. “different opinions, different experiments of living: same difference”
one is in a better position to know what they will benefit from than the state.
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“only you know yourself”. state: general. people vary.
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care about self more than they do (lol) “people” as a whole.
highly idealized. people do stupid shit. there are patterns to this stupid shit.
experiments of living: evidence about what works and doesn’t work
but how many times do you have to run that experiment? if it’s sufficiently clear that sth’s a bad idea, can you “stop running that experiment”?
is the extension from opinion to actions valid?
talk/opinions are cheap, but someone who does something “stupid” things may face major consequences.
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individual dimension
we’ll individually benefit by being allowed to make our own judgments. we’re in a better position to make judgments about ourselves! law has to be general, not tailored to circumstances.
may make some mistakes, but the damage will be less severe than the damage the govt will do by restricting liberty based on generalizations.
mill about social benefits of freedom of expression:
- a silenced opinion may be true. if you deny that, you assume your own infallibility. no one’s infallible.
- if the silenced opinion is erroneous, it may have an element of truth
- if the orthodoxy is completely true, it will be held in prejudice unless vigorously contested. unchallenged. lose contact with reasons for believing those opinions.
- meaning of the doctrine risks being lost. dogma, lack of conviction.
we win by allowing free debate. discovery of truth being important, let the truth prevail.
assumptions:
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truth always wins (it doesn’t, does it?)
it doesn’t? persuasion, rhetoric, * biases and fallacies
“facts are stubborn things”
falsehood: implications: contradictions with experience.
resistant (but not immune) to intellectual pressures that would change our worldview
if not based on reason, based on power.
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we benefit when the true view wins.
belief guides action. action aimed at outcomes we believe are true.
science? danger to society? pAndeMic?
what if there’s no benefit
“we can’t isolate those cases with enough precision to allow making exceptions to le harm principle”.
other (non-util) defenses of the harm principle:
- political anarchism and the locke’s concept of natural rights
- better lives when we make decisions for ourselves. more valuable intrinsically. perfectionist argument
Paternalism —Gerald Dworkin §
Kinds of paternalism:
- pure
- impure
if we no longer sympathise with this criticism this is due […] to a general decline in the belief that individuals know their own interest best. —Hart
mill does, in fact, acknowledge this criticism wrt govt econ interference. he also mentions a acks a few “very large and conspicuous” exceptions.
mill doesn’t use a purely utilitarian argument for anti-paternalism.
a consistent utilitarian can only argue against paternalism on the grounds that it does not maximize the good.
mill’s other argument: “to be able to choose is a good that is independent of the wisdom of what is chosen” in Dworkin’s words.
mode of laying out [their] own existence is the best […] because it is their own mode —Mill
perfectionist argument. “privilege and proper condition of a human being”
mil’s response to the “sell-self-into-slavery” example. “it is not freedom to be allowed to alienate [their] freedom”. Le “narrow principle”
future exercise of freedom is foreclosed. interference justified when action would bring greater loss of future freedom. everything forecloses some freedom?
amount of liberty lost: number of choices possible. permanent foreclosure of future liberty.
e.g. extreme sports.
“negative balance of liberty”
- “what’s good for me”
- “what’s important to me”
threatening punishment: don’t want to follow through, but if the threat is ineffective then they do it anyway and you still gotta punish.
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protection of future freedom test
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prospective test: some things are so important that they’d agree in advance to have their liberty restricted to preserve em
health, life, freedom. “presumptively beneficial good”
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retrospective test: if they get screwed, they’d look back and nod their head ashamedly lol. lame.
what if the bad thing doesn’t come about? why is the judgment more/less authoritative than if it didn’t come about?
preferences|attitudes warped after the decision, perhaps.
perfectionist language sometimes a disguise for prejudice
mill’s prohibitions against paternalism are pretty absolute relative to his views on other things like govt interference with the economy, justice, and prohibition against lying. why? mill’s lines of arg:
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purely Utilitarian
false that “no good can be achieved by interfering which is not a greater evil itself”
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not the goods free choice leads to, but absolute value of choice itself
part of the life of every person […] within which their individuality ought to reign supreme
non-rational behavior:
- incorrect weights attached to values (“evaluative delusions”)
- neglects to enact beliefs/preferences
mill’s admitted exceptions:
- “the uncultivated cannot be judges of cultivation”
- “decide irrevocably now what will be best for [their] interest at some future”
Paternalism is justified only to preserve a wider range of freedom for the individual in question.
“social insurance policies”. odyssey example. where’s the line. admittedly, there’s a risk, therefore there have to be “carefully defined limits”
- danger of disagreement
- rationality being a veil for disagreement
PPGs? even those may sometimes be overriden by competing values. e.g. christian dude and blood transfusion.
can there be a notion of irrationally placing weights on values?
- “irrationally” place more weight on some values
- neglect to act in accordance with one’s beliefs/preferences
- evaluative delusions e.g. floating-upwards-man
we’re more reluctant when evaluative diffs are the issue
actions that irreversibly affect (future) rationality. permanently screws you up. “insurance policy”
- far-reaching
- potentially dangerous
- irreversible
psychological/social pressures.
enforced waiting period. “cooling off” period. “suicide board”
dangers not fully understood or appreciated.
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not know fax
education, warnings
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know fax, but no will-power
enforcing their own will
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know fax, but not appreciate them enough
“would be”
drawing the line, as usual, is challenging
depends on the nature of the deprivation and its effect on the person’s participation
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burden of proof on the authorities (arguing for intervention)
- burden of going forward
- burden of persuasion
high standard of evidence of harmfulness. “better 10 [people] ruin themselves than one [person] be unjustly deprived of liberty”
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principle of the least restrictive alternative
alternatives, when available, even if expensive (in whatever sense), should be chosen over restricting liberty.
possible defenses of harm principle;
- value of autonomy
- respect for autonomy: intrinsically better way of living (mill’s non-util argument). “autonomous agent”
- rational autonomy
harm: decrease someone’s general wellbeing. “make worse off”. wellbeing w/ action vs w/o action. conjecture. value-neutralish.
economic competition: harm??
speech is always protected under the harm principle. still possible to harm with speech. offensive/hate speech? to mill, offense isn’t harm.
actions depends on belief. belief may be influenced by speech.
speech which leads to false beliefs leads to poor actions? harm principle?? second-person harm. judgment intervenes, lies between the speech and the harm that arises. mill: harm iff other person’s judgment doesn’t intervene.
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worsening without harming
hate speech, offense
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harming without worsening
ignore obligation to provide|make_better. e.g. give evidence. harm principle?
worsening is harming, but the question is “how well should’ve the other person been” (what you should’ve done) instead of “how well they would’ve been”. duty. no longer independent (of, say, the concept of obligation)
offense
The Moral Limits of Wrongdoing
A Ride on the Bus, Feinberg.
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value for autonomy
“they know best” etc
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respect for autonomy [non-contingent arg]
even if they plan to shoot themselves in the foot, respect their autonomy anyway
Beyond Neutrality —George Sher §
argues for a moderate (mixed) form of perfectionism. neutrality bad, subjectivism bad. what sort of values should the govt promote?
perfectionism be like: some activities, traits etc are objectively better than others (and others are objectively worse than others). perfectionist arguments are legit reasons for state action and interference with liberty. not necessarily good reasons. bad reasons:
- arg false
- cost too much, hurt too much, …
perfectionism: (relatively) easily abused. prejudice or perfection?
may agree about the objectivity, but disagree about whether the state should do anyth about it.
neutralism be like: perfectionist policy-making sucks. state has no business enforcing views about le good life. state should be neutral about le good life (usually perfectionist views).
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perfectionism as a value theory
as opposed to subjectivism.
some ways of living are objectively better than others regardless of whether:
- want them
- prefer them
- are made happier by them
you ought to want this!
subjectivist: prefers, choices are the final determinant.
perfectionist: nope, some objective criteria exist.
excellence. good > mediocre. achievements. rationality (?)[9]
“better”:
- for you
- it just is lol.
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perfectionist policy-making (political perfectionist)
these reasons justify policy decisions. provide incentives. incentivize work: “better way to live”
- tax deductibility for charitable contributions.
subsidies for “high culture”. “good things for people to do”. incentivize that.
tax deductibility for charitable contributions.
transportation policy where people live how people live. suburban vs urban lyf.
perfectionists: which kinda life do we wanna encourage? neutralists: none of the state’s business
neutral about reasons, not outcomes
policy makers keep running into these kinda decisions
if it’s a reason for us individually, why shouldn’t it be a reason for us collectively?
strong vs weak neutralism: have the effect of promoting vs in order to promote. consequential vs justificatory neutrality
neutralism can be defended in three ways. non-neutral govt decisions:
- violate citizens’ autonomy
- pose risks of oppression, instability
- rest on value premises that can’t be rationally defended
value of autonomy vs respect for autonomy
main conclusions:
- govt may and should take an interest in the goodness of their citizens’ lives
- fundamental value-claims are true
… thus govts should act to further the favored traits and activities.
- rejects the fact that govts must remain neutral (in terms of judging what is “good”)
- traditional perfectionist view[10] > subjectivism
Neutralist arguments:
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individual’s autonomy (value for autonomy)
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owe each other the respect to allow individual decision-making (respect for autonomy)
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perfectionists in power may oppress those that don’t share their outlook. also, instability: opposing factions argue.
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perfectionism isn’t the only avenue for oppression. competing views about *
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oppression doesn’t need a perfectionist “excuse”. oppression is a problem regardless of perfectionism.
- more of a problem!
- ack. protection necessary. legal frameworks.
- more of a problem!
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maybe the state’s conceptions of “the good life” are mistaken
“what is the good life?? how can you know?”
Harm principle Neutralism
Justice and the Market Domain —Margaret Radin §
“The wall” vs “Everything’s a commodity”[11]
wall: sex, organs, babies, votes. perfectionist reasons.
args for the wall (all perfectionist):
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degradation/invasion of personhood (personhood prophylaxis)
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opportunities for altruism
“assumes domino theory”
titmuss wrt human blood: altruism:
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encouraged when only donation allowed
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discouraged when both gifts and sale allowed
puts a price on gifts (market equivalent) discouraging altruism
e.g. grieving parents heart donation
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domino theory: permitting sales for some forecloses nonmarket sharing for the rest
- [normative] important for nonmarket_sharing/altruism to exist
- [empirical] nonmarket cannot coexist with market regime
superset of point about altruism e.g. sexuality.
commodification destroys/disfigures the value of the interaction
We cannot know the price of something and know at the same time that it is priceless
sale cannot be simultaneously a gift. once market value enters discourse, it’s present in and dominates every transaction, per domino theory
domino effect too general to carve out a few exceptions. “where do we draw the line?”
- one-shot
- untrained
- life-death diff
“why just these?”
“commodification isn’t all that corrosive”
some people really do need the money and don’t have other viable alternatives.
the kind of work that we hope to have […] is that which we would do anyway
work vs labor: work has noncommodified component. labor is fully commodified.
alienated | unalienated
wb “busy work”? not fulfilling. pays the bills, but not rewarding.
incomplete commodification is also possible
foster the nonmarket aspect of what we buy and sell
Punishment §
treating people in ways that wouldn’t typically be morally permissible
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forward-looking
good consequences. consequentialist/utilitarian
- deterrence—future crime. threat (credible).
- incapacitation
- rehabilitation (?)
self-deterrence vs rehabilitation
“punishment of the innocence” problem
excuses. “couldn’t have known”
how much deterrence (and how much punishment)?
- how difficult is it to catch em? “worth the risk?”
- more “attractive” (wrt profitability, psychologically) crimes
in some cases, the amt of punishment required to achieve sufficient deterrence feels extraordinarily high compared to the offense itself. e.g. piracy.
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backward-looking
“deserve to be punished”. retributive
- “what’s the point?”
- “pointless suffering”
A Utilitarian Theory of Punishment —Jeremy Bentham §
utility. deterrance. systems of punishment, not individual cases.
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groundless
undeserved
- harmless
- harm outweighed by benefit
agreement enough to make sth harmless
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inefficacious
ineffective. threatening to punish ain’t gonna deter.
some people in some situations can’t be deterred by threats: kids, delusional people, “idk that i’m doing sth illegal”, people under greater counter-threats
delusional person vs sane wrt utility/consequentialist. what’s the difference? >same deterrence, but different amounts of happiness >inefficacious—can’t deter them anyway.
^different justification from that of the retributivist.
“strict liability”
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unprofitable
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needless
punishment is justified when and only when it justifies the maximization of pleasure and pain
- deterrence
- incapacitation
have done, or will do? hypothetically, what if we knew that they will commit a crime, but they haven’t yet?
consequentialist:
retributivist:
A Retributive Theory of Punishment —Herbert Morris §
“impure retributivist”. institutional. no desert.
“primary rules”.
noninterference by others with what each person values, such matters as continuance of life and bodily security. These rules define a sphere for each person then, which is immune from interference by others.
burden: self-restraint.
contrast with “therapeutic model”. “therapy world” device. pathological conditions. “carriers”. morris: this bad.
- abnormal
- causes for the abnormality that explain the symptoms
- interfere with the normal functioning of an individual
- abnormality is a part of the individual
- the abnormality arises from within the individual
- correctional
- symptoms of disorders
- “cure”
- nothing’s an outcome of choices
- “changing the person”
- no scope for dialogue, objections
- no autonomy
- not a “responsible agent”
- procedural safeguards no longer necessary.
- cure may be painful. “/shrug”
- the minority report. preventative treatment
“right to be punished” (as opposed to the therapeutic model). the criminal justice model grants a sorta respect to the criminal. “you knew about the terms beforehand. you had a choice. you’re responsible”
treats the criminal as a responsible agent. “humane”
“fairness” (@Klosko), burdens/benefits. restoration of balance: moral requirement to correct imbalance. owes. thus punish.
matters are not even until this [unfair] advantage is in some way erased. … owes something to others for he has something that does not rightfully belong to him
what’s the point?
principle of fairness. re-achieve balance.
- fundamental right to punishment
- punishment for wrongdoing
- control of dangerous individuals
- (1) stems from our right to be treated as a person
- this right is natural, inalienable, and absolute
- the denial of this right implies the denial of all moral rights, duties
evil of punishing the innocent > evil of not punishing the guilty
because the punishments prescribed … are publicized … there is some plausibility to the exaggerated claim that in choosing to do an act violative of the rules an individual has chosen to be punished.
- set of rules governing behavior → spheres of interest immune from interference
- if one breaks rules → deprivation of valuable things
- (2) is justified by their breaking of the rules
- the deprivation is linked to rules that “fairly distribute benefits and burdens”
the case of the repeated victim. loss. extra burden equalized by “free crimes”? lmao
what determines how much punishment a criminal deserves
how much burden?? hmm
by renouncing what others have assumed, …
people who have restrained themselves from more attractive crimes have undertaken more burden.
amount of punishment restraint other people have exercised
“the more appealing crimes aren’t the worse crimes” —Jack
e.g. murderer vs shoplifter
perp’s benefit | victim’s loss
A Paradox[12] About Level of Punishment —Alan Goldman §
“mixed”: combination of ret. and cons.
- deterrence
- guilt
retributive concept: “forfeiture of rights”. criminals forfeit their right not to be treated like shit. this justifies punishing them. forfeit only as much as you violate.
per this, capital punishment justified.
“equivalent right”—what the average person would be willing to give up. but importance of right isn’t necessarily equivalent to how much one values the right. also, finding equivalences may be tricky.
- chances of persecution
- police efficiency
- bearable costs
can avoid punishment of the innocent, but cannot avoid excessive punishment of the guilty.
The amount of punishment necessary to achieve sufficient deterrence is often more than the amount of suffering endured by the victims of the crime in question. […] This is the paradox of punishment: the retributivist principle of equality of punishment—the idea of punishing criminals exactly as much as the suffering of their victims—contradicts with the utilitarian goal of punishing at least as much as necessary to achieve sufficient deterrence.
exactly equivalent punishment often doesn’t capture the trauma or indifference of the victim
Secession and stuff §
Theories of Secession —Allen Buchanan §
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remedial-right-only
secession legit only when the seceding group’s rights have been violated in some serious way. remedy.
there’s no general right to secede.
parallels to locke. revolution.
special: (1) state grants a right to secede, (2) the constitution includes a right to secede, (3) the agreement that created a state included the assumption that later secession was permissible
- physical survival of its members is threatened by the actions of the state
- its previously sovereign territory was unjustly taken by the state
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primary rights
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ascriptive
Nationalist Principle. large-scale anonymous groups
share ascriptive characteristics. cultural, ethnic, religious, linguistic, traditional, … groups.
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born-into
- voluntary
sufficient.
appeal to the interests of the members of the group.
their fortunes are connected to the fortunes of their groups. sometimes, for the group and its members to flourish, it may be necessary for the group to control its own territory.
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associative
shared ascriptive characteristics not necessary. majority-based. based.
“desire to have their own state” sufficient and necessary. voluntary. chill.
social contract.
appeal to people’s rights. instance of “the right to political association”
wellman’s conditions: (1) majority (2) will be able to carry out the legitimizing functions of a state (3) secession will not hurt the OG state’s ability to effect those same functions
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minimal realism
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consistency with morally progressive principles of intl law
principle of territorial integrity of existing states
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possibility/effects of incorporation into intl law
buchanan: states have morally legitimate reasons to resist disintegration!1!1
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protection of individuals’ physical security, rights, stability of their expectations
territorial integrity → effective jurisdiction
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structure where individuals have incentives to participate in govt processes
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exacerbates problems rather than solving them
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state may oppress the groups to prevent secession
principle of territorial integrity. benefits from fixed boundaries.
- incentive to try to work things out
- stability. predictability.
principle of territorial integrity
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absolutist interpretation
blergh. any right to secede violates this.
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progressive interpretation
remedial rights to secession don’t violate it. primary rights do.
consequentialist. rights may override the weight of these consequences.
rights are supposed to impose limits
rights of groups vs rights of individuals
self-ownership → jump → territory ownership
state’s right over territory. people’s right over territory
if oppressed, seceding may be difficult—revolution may be the only option. they may still have a right though. oppressed, but willing to let minorities break-off. the seceded group may not have resources.
what counts as “oppression”?
how important is group membership to one’s identity?
buchanan: primary right theories
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… will give rise to perverse incentives (oppression, prevent groups from becoming prosperous and politically well-organized). remedial rights will give rise to laudable incentives (legitimacy, correct injustices, …)
PRTs discourage decentralization
incentives against immigration
“nation building programs”. obliterate minority identities.
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moral accessibility
Minority Cultures and the Cosmopolitan Alternative —Jeremy Woldren §
By a “cosmopolitan vision of the self”, Woldren refers to a vision similar to that defended by Rushdie wherein one’s values, beliefs, and behaviours are shaped by a combination of several cultures. People, under this vision, evaluate and choose various aspects of their lifestyle and belief system from several available choices, as made possible by a lack of obligation to be loyal to any single culture. This is as opposed to a vision where the self is defined primarily by the influence of a singular cultural structure of which one is a member.
relevant to the discussion of ascriptive rights theory
deflationary view of the importance of cultural, ethnic, etc groups.
group membership ain’t as important as the ascriptive gang makes it out to be.
defends the cosmopolitan alternative. shaped by several different groups, not necessarily cultural etc. selves.
“hotchpotch”, “melange”, “hybrid”, “mongrelization”, …
being in groups affords protection and security —Charlie
scenario: cosmopolitan life and cultural life both permitted. govt doesn’t take a stance. >there be pressures from both sides against the other. >his comments about apostasy. >liberal culture may be a threat to traditional ones.
some cultures require an exclusivity that is incompatible with the liberal life. liberal culture makes everything a choice which is incompatible with traditional cultures. conflict.
args for le communitarian lyf:
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psychological
we can’t flourish because human psychology. lives incomplete. need to belong. language, collective memories, blood, shared history…
woldren: no. not necessary for people. (or is it?)
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instrumental
kymlecka. coherent set if categories, options. what the world offers or doesn’t offer.
group membership “needed, necessary”
woldreN: membership of or strict allegiance to any particular one ain’t necessary, just the existence of several reference points is.
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perfectionist
“shallow”, “inauthentic”
abstraction, …, ambivalence
“deracinated”, “alienated”
“bad”
worse to be floating above all cultures than to be immersed in a single one.
woldren: maybe in other conditions it’s better to be immersed in a single culture. under the conditions of modernity, however, it’s not best because there is no single culture that defines anybody. we’re subject to a variety of influences as-is. supposing that one of them defines us is rather arbitrary. “it isn’t the case”. inauthentic.
… requires an artificial dislocation from what is actually going on in the world. … practices aren’t so sealed-off from one-another.
some people are isolated as-is (?) exposure.
exposure to the “outside world” => awareness of its existence. living the traditional way, then, is a choice.
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metaphysical
no self exists independent of the community and society. myth.
choosing self inseparable from society
“impossible”
In Defense of Nationalism —David Miller §
- personally identity nationality may, but is not necessarily, a defining feature of one’s identity.
- bounded duties special obligations
- political self-determination
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belief that a nationality exists
necessary, but not sufficient
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historical continuity
tragedies and glories. obligation, duties, common effort. generational. link between past and future.
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active identity
do things—decision-making, achieving, …—together
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geographically restricted
supports Miller’s poltical self-determination point. state <=> nation
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“believed to share certain traits that mark them off from others …”
e.g. cultural: shared {values,tastes,sensibilities} “characteristics which are generally shared by the members” may be merely intuitive
do national identities perform valuable functions?
miller: it answers the need for “solidarity”
miller: it ain’t a conservative concept.
contradictory to liberal cultural pluralism though, innit? miller: assumes that the culture that makes up a nationality must drive out everything else. “nationality is not … all-embracing”
balkan objection: can’t be practically realized—it’ll lead to political instabilitiy and bloodsheed.
miller: not about individual will, but about individual identity.
ethical communities, duties; justice under nationalism
secession:
- redrawing borders
- identity compatibility
- minorities left behind in the OG state
… national self-determination is a good thing, and that states and their constitutions should be arranged so that each nation is … able to secure its common future
Distributive Justice §
distribution of valuable goods in society.
- taxes
- property
- criminal justice
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“which goods?”
e.g. inequality in distro of wealth >also dep. on “merit”
opportunity distribution? equity?
access to healthcare and other necessities. welfare & well-being
equality & satisfacton are at odds. different needs and desires.
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“which principles ought to govern the distribution of those goods?”
e.g.
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priority to those who have less. egalitarian-ish
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sufficiency: threshold important that everyone has at least “enough”.
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maximize overall utility/well-being/whatever
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“merit”-based. hardwork vs slacking. productivity.
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“to each according to their needs” sez Marx
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pluralist: different things distributed differently
- necessities: need-based
- opportunity: equality different people use 'em differently.
- wealth: contribution, desert
- surplus
or: for any good, different factors ought to come into play
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everyone’s mistaken. it ought to not be distributed according to any pattern. process. transitions. @Nozick
“deserve”
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An Entitlement Theory of Justice —Robert Nozick §
starts off with lockean voluntarism-ish stuff. sovereignty to self → sovereignty over holdings (self-ownership → world-ownership). rights. per nozick, rights are constraint-based.
cake example, bike example—steal, gift. history-dependent (?)
forest, hunters, plants example.
entitlement theory:
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principle of justice in original acquisition of holdings
unspecified. since most property is already owned, is it possible to acquire it anymore?
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principle of justice in transfer of holdings
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- acquires in acc. with principle of justice in acquisition
- acquires in acc. with principle of justice in transfer from someone who held it in acc. with either principle
- no one ain’t entitled to nothing except by application of (1) and (2)
justice-preserving steps. historical, not hypothetical. depends on what actually happened.
if past injustice has shaped present holdings in some ways … what ought to be done to rectify these injustices? what obligations do the performers of injustice have … how if at all do things change if the beneficiaries are not the direct parties involved in the act of injustice … is an injustice done to someone whose holding was itself based upon an unrectified injustice? How far back must one go in wiping clean the historical slate of injustices?
hypothetical principle of rectification
historical principles vs end result principles
entitlement theory: historical. “how did it come about?”
in contrast to “current time-slice principles” aka “end result principles”
- structurally identical distributions are equally just
- e.g. welfare economics
- easier to apply (requires less input info)
historical:
- “earning”
- “deserving”
- “entitlement”
past circumstances or actions of people can create differential entitlements or differential deserts
patterned principles of distribution. effort, moral merit, …
the principle of entitlement ain’t patterned tho.
is unpatterned necessarily unjust? “no”. if people’s reasons for transferring holdings were arbitrary, we’d be in some trouble. but that isn’t the case. “most of the transfers under it are done for reasons”.
doesn’t mean that everyone deserves the holdings they receive.
Hayek and “distribution in accordance with benefit to others”. free capitalist society.
… individual aims of individual transactions. No overarching aim is needed, no … pattern is required.
- “to each according to their _____” — pattern ples
- “from each according to their _____” — treats production and distro as separate issues
From each as they choose, to each as they are chosen
relinquish/transfer holdings
was the chain unbroken? history has plenty of injustice.
labor can be traded. what if they’re handicapped? unfavorable market conditions.
inequality? also: undeserved, unfair coz people don’t choose their parents, for example. nozick: idgaf
third principle: rectification of justice
end-state principles vs historical principles
historical, but not desert
“liberty upsets patterns”. to preserve patterns, it’s necessary to interfere with liberty —Nozick
wilt chamberlain example.
Atomism and the Primacy of Rights —Charles Taylor §
Charles Taylor’s “atomism” refers to a theory which would make it plausible to defend the doctrine of primacy of rights—the idea that the rights of individuals are of a fundamental nature and that they ought to take precedence when they come into conflict with the interests and obligations of society. In other words, it’s the theory in the absence of which the doctrine of primacy of rights would hold no water. Taylor adds that atomism may be built up by asserting the self-sufficiency of individuals—that the presence of and obligation to a polity and society are not strictly necessary for a fulfilled human life.
Takes issue with the fact that Nozick starts with rights.
Communitarians: humans would be fundamentally different if they lived outside of society
Nozick: we are rational, self-determining choosers. autonomous agents.
Taylor: BS. atomism is false. therefore primacy of rights false.
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if rights are important, it must be because they protect something important. rights don’t exist in a vacuum.
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per Nozick, rights protect our ability to exhibit autonomous choice. sphere of autonomy. liberty.
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if this freedom is valuable, we must foster the conditions that allow autonomous choosing. liberal society. obligation. rights and obligations are correlative.
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atomism false.
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if rights are important, it must be equally important to sustain a society in which autonomous choosers can exist
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rights are not more fundamental than sustaining the society described in (1). rights don’t take priority over social obligations.
Nozick agrees that rights entail obligations.
Taylor: yeah but obligations also include promoting the things that rights exist to protect. rights entail social obligations.
leaving society its impact on obligations.
does taylor’s position say something about property rights? (property) rights ≪ societal obligations.
another condition for autonomous agency is ownership of property, innit? possession at least resources. taylor: aight, we’re also obliged to make sure everyone has enough to be an autonomous agent.
- equality (e.g. of wealth)
- “liberty upsets patterns”
- doesn’t maximize social utility. lack of incentive to work hard
- conflicts, also, with desert
Equality of Resources —Ronald Dworkin §
- equality of welfare
- equality of resources ← Dworkin
not a “how-to”, but a sketch of what equality of resources would look like. analytical, not practical.
uses the state-of-nature device. what is a fair division of the island’s resources?
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give people equal amounts of everything that exists?
- not always possible to split resources
- equal amounts of resources are not equally valuable
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envy test
no person envies another person’s bundle.
- they envy, not others’ bundles, but hypothetical bundles.
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auction
things or parts of things. equal purchasing power (clamshells). bidding based on how much you want it. eventually leads to an “equal” distribution.
retention of equal distribution over time?
- use wisely vs use foolishly
- preferences of some are more productive than those of others
- {good,bad} {option,brute} luck
- skill
choice-sensitive. gg.
economic markets.
envy principle: once the division is complete, no one must prefer another’s bundle of resources to their own
distribution may be “unequal” for non-envy reasons e.g. preferences; different, hypothetical bundles
equality of resources: people should pay the price of the kind of life they wish to lead
auction system. equal purchasing power (“clams”). leads to an initial equitable distribution. people willing to pay in accordance with how much they desire things.
over time, equality upset.
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effort
claude vs adrian. “equality of resources over life (not at any time)” claude has had more leisure, less tomatoes. adrian: inverse. claude wouldn’t envy adrian including the effort.
“resources” now includes effort and leisure.
what about stamina, energy etc? hmm
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luck
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skill
luck: opposite of choice. dworkin: take it out of the picture. “luck egalitarianism”
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option luck — too bad.
choice, risk leads to consequences (good/bad). aware of the risk.
e.g. gambling, smoking, stonks
price paid: prospect of loss.
envy principle adjusted to exclude stonks acquired through gambles that were not available to all
envy principle not violated.
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brute luck — F. includes talent? probably.
struck by lightning, inheritance
no choice.
envy principle violated.
equality of resources in light of option luck?
insurance. when insurance exists, brute bad luck cannot exist. only option luck exists. bad brute luck → bad option luck
issues at birth/childhood can’t be insured against tho. how much would you be living to insure against having to live with some such ailment? hypothetical choice. gen. estimate for how much others would be willing to pay for these things and then use this estimate to reimburse the victims with the amount that that premium would afford.
compensate you to whatever level you would’ve chosen to insure against
line b/w skill and option luck.
risk-taking ability linked to desires. “ability to lead the lives they desire”
handicaps. starts out with less resources. some nuance wrt insurance. separate market for insurance. auction adjusted to account for initial inequality introduced due to handicaps. treated differently from expensive tastes etc.
circumstances vs choices.
eq of resources fundamentally different from eq of opportunity.
dworkin: prosperity of one does do damage to others. single economy.
equality of resources devoted to whole lives
≠ starting gate theory
ambition-sensitive, but not endowment-sensitive
choice-sensitive, luck insensitive.
wants to “neutralize the effects of differential talents, yet preserve the consequences of one person choosing … [the kind of life they prefer]”
differential talents vs differential ambitions. intertwined though.
people differ in ability. also, some dimensions are marketable, some aren’t.
hypothetically, talent auctions. talents are also resources. but: autonomy over self violated. if you’re very talented, you could just bid on yourself? but then you’re forced to do only what you’re talented at because you’ll be out of clamshells. “slavery of the talented”.
tax the more talented? principle to determine level of taxation of the more talented. dworkin’s solution? insurance again. (relative) lack of talent := brute bad luck. similar to the birth-defect case.
movie star objection.
The Central Capabilities —Martha Nussbaum §
anti-perfectionist.
which goods, and how to distribute them.
expensive tastes, different conceptions of le good life. satisfaction + freedom to make choices (“capability”).
“What is this person able to do and be?”
combined capabilities
internal capabilities (diff. from innate equipment)
combined capabilities ≠ internal capabilities
combined capabilities = internal capabilities + “the social/political/economic conditions in which functioning can actually be chosen”
functioning
state’s efforts should be directed to both components.
capability: opportunity to select. starving vs fasting example.
options are freedoms, and freedom has intrinsic value
we say that capabilities, not functionings, are the appropriate political goals, because room is thereby left for the exercise of human freedom.
so… which capabilities are important? she avoids perfectionist arguments (or does she?). neutrality thesis. “public reason” idea—whatever everyone agrees to.
most agree about the importance of dignity (“degree of respect for one’s personhood”).
what is the criteria? nussbaum: worked out by democratic process.
- life
- bodily {health,integrity}
- senses, imagination, thought
- emotions
- practical reason
- affiliation
- other species
- play
- control over one’s environment
dignity versus, like, satisfaction
irreducible heterogeneity
“tragic choice”
we ask what the best intervention point is to create a future in which this sort of choice does not confront peopel
architectonic role:
- affiliation
- practical reason
threshold. “ample social minimum”. sufficient. no trade-offs.
adequacy of capability vs equality of capability. equal human dignity, but that alone doesn’t imply equal treatment.
- capability security
- fertile functioning
- corrosive disadvantage
A Theory of Justice —John Rawls §
Chapter 1 §
Defends a moderately egalitarian version of a welfare state.
- options available to us
- jobs, institutions
- payoffs attached to different positions in society
- likelihood of living particular kinds of life
society: institutions and their rules.
political system, legal system (constitution), family as a social institution
principles that determine the justice of several systems at once, rather than approaching the justice of systems individually
system of systems as a whole
peace agreement was never an option
hypothetical consent. what principles would everyone agree to in ✨ ideal conditions ✨. what conditions? excludes some real-world conditions. “fair choice conditions”
veil of ignorance—morally arbitrary. increases odds of people reaching to agreements. everyone should have the same footing at least in abstract thinking. okay for the outputs, but not okay for the inputs, to be unequal. original position.
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power, social position, wealth, …
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race, talent, age, …
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conception of the good
why tho?? biased to their conceptions of the good. :thonk:
justice is what comes out of the choice. not the goal of the contract.
self-interested (at least behind the veil). no envy either. they think in absolute terms, not relative ones. cake example.
but then everyone’s an NPC lol. is it really a contract then? hmmst
rawls is pro-neutrality.
- the original position device
- rawls’ principles
rawls: some principles would be rational to choose. they would choose those and those ought to be the ones that are used to structure society.
independent.
principles (ordered by absolute priority)
- equal distribution & maximization of rights and liberties
- difference principle
- positions that offer more wealth must be open to everyone (“equally open to all”)
- equality okay iff the worst-off under the inequality would have even less if the inequality didn’t exist
wb. trade-offs—curtailing freedom to improve everyone’s situation, including the worst-off? rawls: BS.
how can inequalities between and lead to improvement of both their conditions? incentives (@Nozick) lead to productivity and overall level of resources which may lead to prosperity of both and .
how can the people in the OG position, though, make any choices if they don’t know their values?
rawls: primary goods. rational. some all-purpose means are necessary for achieving your goals regardless of what those goals are.
society should be organized such that everyone has a sense of themselves as an effective, worthy goal-pursuer
treats wealth differently from rights/liberties. no way in which inequalities in rights/liberties can benefit everyone. the same is not true about wealth.
real options don’t need to be equality either.
rawls’ method of argument. coherence. equilibrium between convictions and arguments/framework.
Chapter 2 §
justification of the principles rawls proposes:
- would be chosen from the original position
- fit with our independent convictions
no system for evaluating original holdings
difference principle. the worst-off. if those are equally well-off in multiple systems, work your way up the groups and compare their fate. lexical difference principle.
- imperfect procedural justice
- perfect procedural justice
- pure perfect procedural justice ← rawls
maximin rule. maximize the worst-case outcomes. avoiding bad principles. safeguard against the worst outcome. rawls: this is rational.
rawls: they don’t care much if they’re very good outcomes. re: if we don’t know their taste, though, how do we assume they feel this way. rawls: diminishing returns.
- can’t use utility principle — don’t know the probabilities (veil of ignorance)
existence of a political auth relationship is neither sufficient for conclusive reasons of obedience, nor necessary ↩︎
Some theorists define it by participation in democratic elections ↩︎
aka nobody cooperates, ditching the scheme entirely ↩︎
necessary, but not sufficient condition for justified punishment ↩︎
would they though? maybe not everyone, but probably enough people to cause disorder (?) ↩︎
none have the right to enforce their laws upon their citizens (unless they voluntarily agree to them) ↩︎
parentalism! ↩︎
adults. ↩︎
better to know your reasons for your beliefs than not to ↩︎
neither the only legit basis, nor the most important ↩︎
also, nonmarket interaction ↩︎
^WDilemma ↩︎